362: Low Risk Ways To Host Your First Retreat with Megan Gunnell
Written By Melvin VargheseMelvin Varghese PhD
Hosting a retreat is possible.
Hosting a retreat is possible. In today's episode, Megan Gunnell shared her experiences and insights on hosting retreats. Megan, a clinical social worker by training, has been hosting retreats since 2012 and has even expanded to international retreats in countries like Costa Rica, Italy, and France.
One of the key takeaways from the podcast episode was the idea of de-risking hosting a retreat. Many therapists have fears about hosting retreats, such as logistical concerns and the fear of not filling up the retreat. Megan shared some low-risk ways to host your first retreat, including finding venues that offer fully refundable options and planning ahead to reduce risks.
One of the most important aspects of hosting a retreat is the marketing. Megan emphasized the importance of marketing a retreat effectively to ensure its success. With her experience in hosting retreats and coaching other therapists through the process, Megan shared valuable insights on how to market a retreat and attract participants.
Overall, the podcast episode highlighted that hosting a retreat is possible with the right approach and mindset. By following Megan's tips and advice, therapists can successfully host their own retreats and create meaningful experiences for their participants. Whether it's a local retreat or an international one, hosting a retreat is a rewarding opportunity for therapists to connect with their clients and create a unique therapeutic experience.
Start small, dream big.
The theme of “start small, dream big” is evident throughout the podcast episode as Megan Gunnell shares her journey of starting with one-day retreats for busy working moms in her private practice, and eventually expanding to weekend retreats and international retreats in Costa Rica. Megan's story serves as a great example of how taking small, incremental steps can lead to achieving big dreams and goals.
One key takeaway from the podcast is the importance of listening to the needs and desires of the audience in front of you. By paying attention to what her clients were indirectly asking for, Megan was able to identify the demand for retreats and create a successful retreat model that catered to their needs. This highlights the importance of being attuned to the needs of clients and being open to new opportunities for growth and expansion.
Another important aspect of the podcast is the idea of not getting overwhelmed by the final product or end goal. Megan Gunnell shares how her natural default is to think about the final product, but she recognizes that taking the first small step is crucial in making progress towards her goals. This message resonates with many clinicians and entrepreneurs who may feel overwhelmed by the idea of starting a new venture or project. By focusing on taking small, manageable steps, individuals can make progress and eventually reach their big dreams.
In conclusion, the podcast episode emphasizes the importance of starting small and taking incremental steps towards achieving big dreams. Megan's journey of starting with one-day retreats and gradually expanding to international retreats serves as a testament to the power of perseverance, listening to the needs of clients, and being open to new opportunities. By following Megan's advice and mindset of starting small and dreaming big, therapists can successfully host their own retreats and create meaningful experiences for their clients.
Start small, make big impact.
Starting small allows for a more manageable and realistic approach to achieving goals. It allows for a solid foundation to be built, which can then be expanded upon as success is achieved. Megan's example of starting with a one-day program at a community center and then growing to host weekend retreats and international retreats showcases how small steps can lead to significant growth and impact.
Starting small also allows for a more intimate and personal connection with clients. By hosting smaller events, therapists can create a more personalized and meaningful experience for participants. This can help build trust and loyalty among clients, leading to a stronger bond and potentially creating “super fans” who will continue to support and attend future events.
Additionally, starting small allows for a more gradual learning curve and the opportunity to refine and improve the retreat experience over time. By starting with smaller events, therapists can learn what works best for their clients, what resonates with them, and how to better cater to their needs. This iterative process of starting small and making adjustments based on feedback can ultimately lead to a more impactful and successful retreat experience.
In conclusion, the podcast episode highlights the importance of starting small and making a big impact. By taking small steps, therapists can build a solid foundation, create meaningful connections with clients, and continuously improve and grow their retreat offerings. Megan's journey serves as inspiration for therapists looking to host their own retreats, showing that with dedication, perseverance, and a willingness to start small, big dreams can be achieved.
Scalable offers lead to liberation.
The podcast episode discusses the concept of scalable offers leading to liberation for therapists. The conversation delves into the traditional model of trading time for income through one-to-one work and the transformative experience of moving towards more scalable offers. The speaker reflects on their personal journey of transitioning from one-to-one work to scalable offers and the newfound awareness of the limitations of trading time for income.
One key point made in the podcast is the liberating aspect of moving away from the one-to-one model. By creating scalable offers, therapists can break free from the cycle of constantly trading time for income. This shift allows for more flexibility, autonomy, and the ability to prioritize self-care. The speaker emphasizes the importance of practicing what is preached in terms of self-care, especially in an industry where burnout is common.
The podcast also touches on the challenges that therapists face when they are solely reliant on the one-to-one model for income. The speaker discusses the mental health and resilience implications of continuously seeing one-to-one clients year after year. As therapists progress in their private practice and realize the limitations of the traditional model, it can become increasingly difficult to maintain energy and enthusiasm for the work.
In conclusion, the podcast highlights the benefits of scalable offers in providing liberation for therapists. By moving away from the one-to-one model and embracing scalable offers, therapists can experience greater freedom, flexibility, and the ability to prioritize self-care. The conversation serves as a reminder for therapists to explore alternative models of income generation and to prioritize their own well-being in order to sustain a long and fulfilling career in the field.
Plan ahead for successful retreats.
The podcast also emphasizes the importance of planning ahead for successful retreats. The speaker shares her personal experience of hosting retreats and the meticulous planning and attention to detail required for a successful event. She discusses the long-term commitment involved in hosting retreats, mentioning that she plans events years in advance and has a detailed calendar to stay organized.
Furthermore, the speaker touches on the importance of outsourcing or partnering with individuals who excel in event planning and detail orientation if it is not a strength of the therapist. This highlights the need for collaboration and delegation in order to ensure a smooth and successful retreat experience for both the therapist and the participants.
The podcast also delves into the legal and financial aspects of hosting retreats, emphasizing the importance of protecting oneself and the participants through liability coverage, disclaimers, emergency contacts, and other safety measures. The speaker shares personal anecdotes of dealing with emergencies and illnesses during retreats, underscoring the need for thorough preparation and risk management.
Additionally, the speaker discusses the financial aspect of hosting retreats, highlighting the importance of setting up savings accounts or escrow accounts to hold funds until the event takes place. This ensures that the investment is protected and that the event can proceed smoothly without any financial setbacks.
In conclusion, the podcast serves as a valuable resource for therapists looking to expand their practice through hosting retreats. By emphasizing the benefits of planning ahead, collaborating with others, and prioritizing safety and financial protection, therapists can create successful and fulfilling retreat experiences for themselves and their participants.
Mitigate risk with careful planning.
The transcript of the podcast highlights the importance of mitigating risks through careful planning when it comes to hosting retreats or expanding a therapy practice. Planning ahead and considering potential challenges such as cancellations, refunds, legalities, and financial investments are crucial steps in ensuring a successful and safe experience for both the therapist and participants.
One key aspect mentioned in the podcast is the importance of having a solid cancellation policy that addresses unforeseen circumstances such as pandemics, travel bans, or other emergencies. By clearly outlining the terms of cancellation and refund policies, therapists can protect themselves and their clients from financial losses and misunderstandings.
Additionally, collaborating with reputable partners, securing venues with flexible terms, and considering insurance options can help mitigate risks associated with booking deposits and uncertainties about selling out an event. By taking proactive steps to protect themselves and their clients, therapists can minimize potential liabilities and ensure a smooth and successful retreat experience.
Overall, the podcast emphasizes the importance of thorough planning, communication, and risk management in the process of hosting retreats. By addressing potential challenges and uncertainties upfront, therapists can create a safe and enjoyable experience for all involved while also safeguarding their practice and financial investments. Ultimately, careful planning and attention to detail are essential in mitigating risks and ensuring the success of retreats in the therapy field.
Start small, test audience, learn.
The first step in hosting a successful retreat, as discussed in the podcast, is to start small and test the audience. This approach allows therapists to gauge interest, gather feedback, and gain valuable experience before committing to larger and more complex events. By hosting a one-day program in a small venue, therapists can assess the logistics, audience response, and overall feasibility of hosting a retreat.
Testing the audience involves reaching out to potential participants, whether they are clients, colleagues, or members of the therapist's community, to gauge interest and gather feedback on the proposed retreat. This feedback can help therapists tailor their offerings to better meet the needs and preferences of their audience, increasing the likelihood of a successful event.
Learning from the experience of hosting a small retreat is crucial for future planning and decision-making. By reflecting on what worked well, what could be improved, and any unexpected challenges that arose, therapists can refine their approach and make informed decisions for future retreats. This process of continuous learning and adaptation is essential for growth and success in the field of therapy retreats.
In addition to starting small, testing the audience, and learning from the experience, the podcast also emphasizes the importance of financial planning and risk management. By seeking venues with flexible refund policies, setting clear financial goals, and considering the size of their platform, therapists can make informed decisions about hosting retreats that align with their financial resources and audience reach.
Overall, the podcast highlights the value of a strategic and thoughtful approach to hosting therapy retreats. By starting small, testing the audience, and continuously learning and adapting, therapists can create meaningful and successful retreat experiences for their clients while also safeguarding their practice and financial investments.
Calculate expenses, buffer for profit.
The host of the podcast emphasizes the importance of calculating expenses and buffering for profit when planning and hosting therapy retreats. She shares her own experience of hosting retreats internationally in Costa Rica and Italy, and the lessons she has learned along the way.
One key aspect she discusses is the need to cover all expenses associated with the retreat, including venue costs, flights, lodging, team members, and activities for guests. It is important to carefully consider all potential expenses and budget accordingly to ensure that the retreat is financially sustainable. Additionally, she mentions the importance of factoring in unexpected costs and budgeting for a buffer to cover any unforeseen expenses that may arise.
The host also emphasizes the need to calculate a generous profit margin to ensure that the retreat is not only financially viable but also profitable for the therapist. Hosting a retreat involves a significant investment of time, marketing, and planning, and it is essential to consider the opportunity cost of dedicating 10 to 12 months to organizing and promoting the retreat. By factoring in a salary for the time and effort invested, therapists can ensure that they are adequately compensated for their work.
In terms of determining a buffer percentage, the host does not provide a specific number but recommends considering all potential expenses and adding a buffer to cover any unforeseen costs. This buffer should be calculated based on the specific circumstances of the retreat, including the location, duration, and activities planned. By being proactive in budgeting and planning for contingencies, therapists can minimize financial risks and ensure that their retreats are successful and profitable ventures.
In conclusion, the podcast highlights the importance of calculating expenses, budgeting for a buffer, and ensuring a generous profit margin when planning and hosting therapy retreats. By taking a strategic and thoughtful approach to financial planning, therapists can create meaningful and successful retreat experiences for their clients while also safeguarding their practice and financial investments.
Calculate expenses, price strategically, market effectively.
The podcast emphasizes the need for therapists to carefully calculate all expenses associated with hosting a therapy retreat. This includes factoring in venue costs, marketing expenses, staff salaries, and other miscellaneous costs. By adding up all expenses and dividing by the number of ideal participants, therapists can determine a breakeven cost and set a registration price that will allow them to make a profit.
Moreover, the podcast suggests budgeting for a buffer in expenses, especially when hosting larger events or at more expensive venues. By doubling the breakeven cost for the registration price, therapists can ensure that they have enough funds to cover all expenses and make a profit for themselves, their team, and their marketing efforts.
Additionally, the podcast highlights the importance of strategic marketing to fill therapy retreats. By using effective marketing strategies such as social media promotions, email campaigns, and partnerships with other professionals, therapists can attract participants and generate interest in their retreats. It is also mentioned that hosting retreats in affordable locations abroad can be a cost-effective option, as it allows therapists to access a wider range of venues and potentially lower expenses compared to hosting in the United States.
In conclusion, the podcast underscores the significance of calculating expenses, pricing strategically, and marketing effectively when planning and hosting therapy retreats. By taking a comprehensive and thoughtful approach to financial planning and marketing, therapists can create successful and profitable retreat experiences for their clients while also ensuring the sustainability of their practice.
Build retreats with clear intentions.
The podcast emphasizes the importance of building retreats with clear intentions in order to create a successful and impactful experience for attendees. One of the key points made is the need for therapists to be clear on why they are building the retreat, who it is for, and what the promise or solution is that attendees will receive by participating. By understanding these key elements, therapists can effectively communicate their message and attract the right audience to their retreat.
Additionally, the podcast highlights the importance of giving oneself a long enough runway when planning a retreat. This means allowing enough time for marketing, promoting, and selling tickets to the event. Rushing the planning process can lead to difficulties in getting the retreat off the ground and may result in low attendance. By giving oneself ample time to build excitement and anticipation around the retreat, therapists can increase the chances of selling out and creating a successful event.
Furthermore, the podcast discusses the importance of listening to the audience and scaling the retreat in a gradual manner. Starting small and building up over time allows therapists to test the waters, gather feedback, and make adjustments as needed. This approach can help ensure the success and sustainability of the retreat in the long run.
Lastly, the podcast addresses the challenging situation of not hitting the breakeven number for a retreat. In such cases, therapists are advised to communicate clearly with attendees about the situation, offer refunds or alternative options, and apologize for any inconvenience. Being transparent and honest with attendees can help maintain trust and goodwill within the community.
In conclusion, building retreats with clear intentions, giving oneself enough time to plan and market effectively, listening to the audience, and handling challenges with honesty and transparency are key factors in creating successful therapy retreats. By following these guidelines, therapists can create meaningful and impactful experiences for their clients while also ensuring the success and sustainability of their practice.
Start small, plan intentionally, thrive.
Starting small, planning intentionally, and thriving are essential components of building successful therapy retreats. The podcast episode highlighted the importance of taking action and getting started, even if it means starting with a small half-day or one-day retreat at a local venue. This approach allows therapists to learn and grow from their experiences, rather than waiting to perfect every detail before taking the first step.
Additionally, the podcast emphasized the significance of giving oneself enough time to plan and prepare for retreats, especially for larger international retreats, which may take 1.5 to 2 years to plan. By allowing ample time for planning, therapists can avoid unnecessary stress and ensure that the retreat meets their goals and expectations. It is important to approach the planning process with intentionality and thoughtfulness, rather than rushing through it in the final months.
Furthermore, the podcast highlighted the importance of listening to the audience and gathering feedback to improve future retreats. By reflecting on what worked well, what didn't work well, and areas for improvement, therapists can continuously enhance the quality of their retreats and create a more impactful experience for participants. This feedback loop allows therapists to adapt and grow their retreats over time, leading to greater success and satisfaction for both themselves and their clients.
Lastly, the podcast emphasized the importance of handling challenges with honesty and transparency. By acknowledging and addressing difficulties openly, therapists can build trust with their clients and demonstrate their commitment to providing a valuable and authentic experience. This approach fosters a supportive and collaborative environment at the retreat, where participants feel heard and understood.
In conclusion, building retreats with clear intentions, giving oneself enough time to plan and market effectively, listening to the audience, and handling challenges with honesty and transparency are key factors in creating successful therapy retreats. By following these guidelines, therapists can create meaningful and impactful experiences for their clients while also ensuring the success and sustainability of their practice.
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megan gunnell
Group Practice Owner and Founder @ Thrive Well Institute
In addition to being a business owner, author, and triathlete, Megan Gunnell is a Clinical Social Worker who has been hosting 1-day retreats, workshops and weekend/week long retreats for 20+ years.
Melvin varghese phd
Psychologist and Founder @ Selling The Couch
Melvin Varghese, PhD is a licensed psychologist in Philadelphia, PA. In 2015, Dr. Varghese founded Selling The Couch, a podcast to help therapists move from clinical to online income. On the podcast, he interviews successful practitioners about how they've built their practices, social media/marketing experts, and shares lessons as he uses our clinical skills to create an online business powered by podcasting + online courses.
The podcast is one of the top Career podcasts in Apple Podcasts, has been downloaded over 1.8 million times, and is heard in over 125 countries. Mel is a successful course creator with 240+ students and $300k+ in course sales.
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